>> host: well, at that time i thought martin luther king was too much a compriseer. i was willing to demand people in my career in the army was a part of that vision of confronting racial discrimination. >> host: how tall are you? >> guest: six foot fight. >> host: were you that height in the army? >> guest: yes, i was in better conditions in the army. >> host: how did you get to the army? >> guest: i was -- i was getting ready to say i was drafted. i would rather say my labor services were con phone skated. >> host: when? >> guest: 1959. i was driving a tacky cab in phil pill. i was making eat $400 a month driving a cab i got the a letter saying you are going stop making $400 a begin to make $68 and normally people don't switch voluntarily in that direction. >> host: what was the service like for you? >> guest: well, to give you an idea. i was sent to fort stewart, georgia without a good orientation on the southern way of life. >> host: like? >> guest: i organized the black soldier to go to the dance on the wrong night. they had separate dances on post. and i -- as